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	<title>Comments on: Unique Snowflake:  Saying No to Cookie Cutter Specs</title>
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		<title>By: Rensaelys</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Rensaelys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 06:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It perplexes me when people stick their noses up at &quot;cookie cutter specs&quot;. I, myself, do not use a cookie cutter spec, but I understand that one of the primary reasons for their existence is because many people have theory-crafted the maximized spec for whatever role you&#039;re attempting to fill. So when a lot of people attempt to make themselves a special little snow flake, often times they end up hurting their ability to maximize their usefulness to their raid.

Luckily, we Druids have a little more flexibility than most in what we can spec and how, but a lot of classes don&#039;t. Even so, I don&#039;t have Revitalize because I think it&#039;s a waste of three talent points. I&#039;ve gone over the WWS logs from our 25-man Ulduar runs and I am just entirely unimpressed and disappointed. The return for three talent points is just not worth it in my eyes when I can get Nature&#039;s Grace instead.

Depending on the role you fill as a healing Druid (be it tank healer or raid healer), I find it useful. Yes, it was nerfed. Yes, it only lasts three seconds. In three seconds, I can cast three Nourish spells if I need to.. And on some of these fights, I need to. Hard-mode Hodir comes to mind, when we only have three healers and I&#039;m the only one dedicated solely to the tank. It can get rough.

But, I&#039;m happy with my spec. It allows me to do everything and offers me both flexibility and versatility as a resto druid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It perplexes me when people stick their noses up at &#8220;cookie cutter specs&#8221;. I, myself, do not use a cookie cutter spec, but I understand that one of the primary reasons for their existence is because many people have theory-crafted the maximized spec for whatever role you&#8217;re attempting to fill. So when a lot of people attempt to make themselves a special little snow flake, often times they end up hurting their ability to maximize their usefulness to their raid.</p>
<p>Luckily, we Druids have a little more flexibility than most in what we can spec and how, but a lot of classes don&#8217;t. Even so, I don&#8217;t have Revitalize because I think it&#8217;s a waste of three talent points. I&#8217;ve gone over the WWS logs from our 25-man Ulduar runs and I am just entirely unimpressed and disappointed. The return for three talent points is just not worth it in my eyes when I can get Nature&#8217;s Grace instead.</p>
<p>Depending on the role you fill as a healing Druid (be it tank healer or raid healer), I find it useful. Yes, it was nerfed. Yes, it only lasts three seconds. In three seconds, I can cast three Nourish spells if I need to.. And on some of these fights, I need to. Hard-mode Hodir comes to mind, when we only have three healers and I&#8217;m the only one dedicated solely to the tank. It can get rough.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m happy with my spec. It allows me to do everything and offers me both flexibility and versatility as a resto druid.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Love the spec 
Nice to know there are other non-cookie cutters out there.
Makes you proud that ther are other true resto trees who have earned there leafs over the years and know there gear and cast styles well.
Nice blog 
Thank you for the tree reminder: 
I am resto have always been levelled that way and will always be a Healing Tree.
Duel spec is fun but Tree is Me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Love the spec<br />
Nice to know there are other non-cookie cutters out there.<br />
Makes you proud that ther are other true resto trees who have earned there leafs over the years and know there gear and cast styles well.<br />
Nice blog<br />
Thank you for the tree reminder:<br />
I am resto have always been levelled that way and will always be a Healing Tree.<br />
Duel spec is fun but Tree is Me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tales of the Aggronaut &#187; Archive &#187; Can&#8217;t Brain&#8230; has the dumb</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Tales of the Aggronaut &#187; Archive &#187; Can&#8217;t Brain&#8230; has the dumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over at Rolling Hots has a good post from a druid perspective on how the cookie cutter build is not always the best for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hummy</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Hummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait does anything I wrote make sense? I think I need some &#039;not&#039; and &#039;no&#039; in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait does anything I wrote make sense? I think I need some &#8216;not&#8217; and &#8216;no&#8217; in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Erdluf</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>Erdluf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Resto is my second spec, so I&#039;m just learning this stuff.

My spec matches yours except for

+2 Imp Tranq
+3 Revitalize
-2 Tranquil Spirit
-3 Natural Perfection

I&#039;m happy with it so far.  Managed to get Emalon as resto (not yet as Moonkin).

Imp Tranq was nice when I got behind on consecutive bosses in H VH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resto is my second spec, so I&#8217;m just learning this stuff.</p>
<p>My spec matches yours except for</p>
<p>+2 Imp Tranq<br />
+3 Revitalize<br />
-2 Tranquil Spirit<br />
-3 Natural Perfection</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy with it so far.  Managed to get Emalon as resto (not yet as Moonkin).</p>
<p>Imp Tranq was nice when I got behind on consecutive bosses in H VH.</p>
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		<title>By: Hummy</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Hummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 06:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here. I got a comment from a guy a few days ago (who apparently use to be the number 2 Discipline Priest on the server): You have a strange spec...very strange. I would have like to have told him to shove it, but that would be nice, and I knew he just didn&#039;t understand. His emphasis on being Discipline lead me to think that he didn&#039;t think there was a gray area between Holy and Discipline.
&quot;You&#039;re special...just like everyone else.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here. I got a comment from a guy a few days ago (who apparently use to be the number 2 Discipline Priest on the server): You have a strange spec&#8230;very strange. I would have like to have told him to shove it, but that would be nice, and I knew he just didn&#8217;t understand. His emphasis on being Discipline lead me to think that he didn&#8217;t think there was a gray area between Holy and Discipline.<br />
&#8220;You&#8217;re special&#8230;just like everyone else.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kae</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love revitalize, and my guilds&#039; recent wws&#039;s have backed it up.  The kitties, DKs, rogues, bears, and warriors have had revitalize be their #1 or #2 source of power refreshment... it&#039;s just not something you can really take for yourself and expect it to be as great as the other sources of mana.  

RE: Nature&#039;s Grace, I&#039;m not a fan of procced haste for insta-casts just from experience trying to work with the egg of mortal essence.  It&#039;s hard to speed up your spell-casting on the fly, then readjust to the slower cooldown afterwards; you also have to keep a constant eye out for the proc itself.  I just can&#039;t ignore that the proc could be used that way (for sake of versatility), and there are definitely times when I&#039;m wishing my GCD was just that tiny bit faster so I could pump out more heals.  I do use NG procs just to speed up Nourish and Regrowth when the tank needs extra heals, so I personally use NG in my spec regardless of its effect on the GCD for HoTs, but it is still an interesting side-effect to consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love revitalize, and my guilds&#8217; recent wws&#8217;s have backed it up.  The kitties, DKs, rogues, bears, and warriors have had revitalize be their #1 or #2 source of power refreshment&#8230; it&#8217;s just not something you can really take for yourself and expect it to be as great as the other sources of mana.  </p>
<p>RE: Nature&#8217;s Grace, I&#8217;m not a fan of procced haste for insta-casts just from experience trying to work with the egg of mortal essence.  It&#8217;s hard to speed up your spell-casting on the fly, then readjust to the slower cooldown afterwards; you also have to keep a constant eye out for the proc itself.  I just can&#8217;t ignore that the proc could be used that way (for sake of versatility), and there are definitely times when I&#8217;m wishing my GCD was just that tiny bit faster so I could pump out more heals.  I do use NG procs just to speed up Nourish and Regrowth when the tank needs extra heals, so I personally use NG in my spec regardless of its effect on the GCD for HoTs, but it is still an interesting side-effect to consider.</p>
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		<title>By: Boize</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Boize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.

While cookie-cutter specs are great for giving you a basis of where your talents should go (especially if you&#039;re new to the class/spec - as may happen more often with dual specs), it is also important to actually go through yourself.

If you actually dedicate the time to reading through your talents, seeing what you personally are lacking, or don&#039;t need, you&#039;ll end up with a spec that suits your play style (e.g. rolling HoTs or nourish spamming, casual pugs or hardcore raids), and will truly be better off for it.

Just like anything else, if you invest time in your character, you -will- reap the benefits of your time and effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>While cookie-cutter specs are great for giving you a basis of where your talents should go (especially if you&#8217;re new to the class/spec &#8211; as may happen more often with dual specs), it is also important to actually go through yourself.</p>
<p>If you actually dedicate the time to reading through your talents, seeing what you personally are lacking, or don&#8217;t need, you&#8217;ll end up with a spec that suits your play style (e.g. rolling HoTs or nourish spamming, casual pugs or hardcore raids), and will truly be better off for it.</p>
<p>Just like anything else, if you invest time in your character, you -will- reap the benefits of your time and effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/05/08/unique-snowflake-saying-no-to-cookie-cutter-specs/comment-page-1/#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>Beruthiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree!  Even though cookies are quite tasty...I&#039;d rather not be just the same as the next one!

I have also been thinking about speccing into Nature&#039;s Grace, but I am conflicted about 1) where I would pull the points from, and 2) if it would give me that much of a boost over my current spec.

My first few specs I skipped Subtlety, but I have moved back into it.  Apparently I am a threat monster :(  It was actually so bad that one of our paladins made a macro - /target Beruthiel, /cast Hand of Protection.  Single target bosses were usually never a problem, but I did find that I died much less on trash pulls, and on encounters where there are mobs that spawn out and need to be picked up once I went back into it.  Our warriors still vigilance me on multi mob boss fights...while it DOES make me feel special, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s in a good way ;)

I currently have 3/3 in Revitalize.  I&#039;ve been really looking at our WWS trying to determine how much Revitalize is actually contributing to our raids, and then making a decision on if these talent points would be better spent elsewhere.  Once I have time, I intend to put up the numbers over on my blog =)

Like you, I also favor putting points into Natural Perfection.  However, if I decide to give Nature&#039;s Grace a whirl the two points I&#039;ve got there will probably go.

Gah!  So many options, so few talent points! =)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Beruthiel&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/my-secret-life-as-a-newbie-hunter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Secret Life as a Newbie…Hunter!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree!  Even though cookies are quite tasty&#8230;I&#8217;d rather not be just the same as the next one!</p>
<p>I have also been thinking about speccing into Nature&#8217;s Grace, but I am conflicted about 1) where I would pull the points from, and 2) if it would give me that much of a boost over my current spec.</p>
<p>My first few specs I skipped Subtlety, but I have moved back into it.  Apparently I am a threat monster <img src='http://www.rollinghots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   It was actually so bad that one of our paladins made a macro &#8211; /target Beruthiel, /cast Hand of Protection.  Single target bosses were usually never a problem, but I did find that I died much less on trash pulls, and on encounters where there are mobs that spawn out and need to be picked up once I went back into it.  Our warriors still vigilance me on multi mob boss fights&#8230;while it DOES make me feel special, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s in a good way <img src='http://www.rollinghots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I currently have 3/3 in Revitalize.  I&#8217;ve been really looking at our WWS trying to determine how much Revitalize is actually contributing to our raids, and then making a decision on if these talent points would be better spent elsewhere.  Once I have time, I intend to put up the numbers over on my blog =)</p>
<p>Like you, I also favor putting points into Natural Perfection.  However, if I decide to give Nature&#8217;s Grace a whirl the two points I&#8217;ve got there will probably go.</p>
<p>Gah!  So many options, so few talent points! =)</p>
<p><abbr><em>Beruthiel&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/my-secret-life-as-a-newbie-hunter/" rel="nofollow">My Secret Life as a Newbie…Hunter!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Running Elk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Running Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of cookie cutter specs, mine is almost identical to yours. hehehe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of cookie cutter specs, mine is almost identical to yours. hehehe&#8230;</p>
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