Comments on: Tree Mail: I need to stack what???

By: Phil

Phil — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:04:02 +0000

Stats, stats, stats…
Want an advice?
Go for straight +spell power, ignore others stats as much as you can and go for +sp…
The logic is simple, the more sp you have, more your HoTs will tick and the less you got cast! OMG!
Saving mana? Saving haste (because you don’t need to low your GCD)? Saving crit (HoTs don’t need to crit, if they do… AWESOME!)? Saving mana per 5?
Well besides that go for spirit, they help you get spell power AND mana regen… But don’t forget the spell power should be your main goal…
Please correct me if I am wrong

By: admin

admin — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:34:26 +0000

Viiryen, that’s a really interesting point and actually brings up a mechanic with which I was totally unfamiliar. I didn’t realize that this is how replenishment works. Thanks so much for pointing it out to me. I see a new post coming soon in which I educate myself on replenishment! lol! Thanks so much!

By: Viiryen

Viiryen — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:48:26 +0000

This is an excellent post for those new Tree Druids. It’s laid out in simplistic yet helpful terms, props to you for writing it.

The only thing I see that is incorrect is the assumption that Spirit > Int in terms of mana regen. This largely varies when you consider both how much Spirit you have in comparison to Int and, most importantly, your enviroment.

Due to Replenishment, Int stacking yields more actual mana than any other stat because Replenishment is percentage based. A Resto Druid with 15K Mana will gain FAR less than a Resto Druid with 20K mana from Replenishment. That is, of course, assuming a high Replenishment uptime and not making much use of the 5SR.

By: admin

admin — Thu, 28 May 2009 22:38:43 +0000

good point about Living Seed, Beltain! Thanks for adding that to the conversation. I definitely can relate to your feelings over your dps gear stats. I feel your pain there…

By: Beltain

Beltain — Thu, 28 May 2009 19:53:37 +0000

Great overview for saplings. Perhaps it is the way I read it however, I just want to clarify that while LB can and does crit, it cannot proc a Living Seed (I disagree with the devs decision about it but unfortunately it’s not my decision to make) whereas RG, HT, and Nourish all can give us Living Seeds.

I certainly feel a difference in my off-spec Boomkin gear where I have had to focus more on hit than SP or haste. I miss my healing 1s GCD haste when I’m dpsing, not to mention the haste as how it would effect starfire. /sigh Ah well, when I want that feeling I just get back in the driver’s seat of healing. =)

By: Kevin

Kevin — Thu, 28 May 2009 15:19:41 +0000

I’ve always treated spellpower as the druid’s first priority. Its the thing that effects HoTs the most and has a very direct impact on how much you can heal which is also part of efficiency.

In general, if you grab the healing items from heroics (with spellpower and spirit, cloth or leather) your regen will be good enough for you to progress. Especially if you can count on using your Innervate on yourself.

I usually go something like SP > SPI > Haste and I almost always gem for spellpower regardless of the bonus unless the bonus is really, really good.

The one thing that I’m finding in Ulduar is that haste is pretty useful. There are some fights where I just need to get off a bunch of heals in a short amount of time (XT-002 for example).

By: admin

admin — Wed, 27 May 2009 22:21:16 +0000

Jurik, another great point. My assumptions were based upon a heroic raid with the requisite buffs, but that calculation does not always hold up in every raid composition. Thanks for the added information!

By: admin

admin — Wed, 27 May 2009 22:20:14 +0000

excellent point, Shynda. Thanks for adding to the conversation here!

By: Aertimus

Aertimus — Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:19 +0000

Really nice post as an introduction to newer druids for stats! We know there is so much behind "very dependent upon what playstyle you engage in" that you can't go into all of it in one post. I really like how you started with mana regen stats until you are good on mana regen instead of the overly simplistic "stack spellpower" answer. Also, good to have you back! Sorry to hear your first raid healing assigning was Naxx. That place moves at a breakneck speed. I actually have found it easier to assign on harder content because the trash moves slower. Aertimus’s last blog post..Need Input: Assumed Some Numbers for Mana Regen Calculations - Did I Pick Good Numbers?

By: Shynda

Shynda — Wed, 27 May 2009 21:51:24 +0000

After the mana regen nerf, and since regen depends on both spirit and int now, something odd has happened.

Say I’m fighting a six and a half minute fight, and spend about 10% of it outside the Five Second Rule, raid-buffed and in my current SPI-stacked gear.
Then one INT point gives me mana at the start plus extra mana regen during the fight and actually yields me *more* mana for that fight than a SPI point(!)

So I think it’s no longer safe to say that SPI beats INT, it depends on the length of the fight and your current amounts of SPI and INT.