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		<title>By: Ordo</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/07/16/questioning-druid-q-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How about they just stick an option where we can turn on or off our forms, similar to what we have with helmets and cloaks.&quot;
I like it.  It&#039;d be cool to see us crawling around like cats or bears but in regular caster form  :D

I agree that in pvp shifting is a necessary survival tactic.  You have to be able to go from tree to bear to cheetah, then when you&#039;re safe prowl back quietly and be ready to pop that crucial heal at the right time.  

I think you&#039;re right that in pve this is usually not necessary.  You pick a role in a group and you stick with it.  When I was leveling, though, I tried a 0/30/31 spec that I actually liked a lot.  I was usually grouping w/ a priest, pally, sham, and hunter from my guild.  Priest or sham took main heals, hunter&#039;s pet and pally took main tanking duties, and so my role was shifty.  I would usually start in cat to take down the most important or the easiest mob, then shift to bear to off-tank adds heading for the healer and bring them back to the front of the fight.  If the priest died or ended up running around feared, sheeped, or silenced.  I could rebirth him or cover healing as long as needed, then back to cat to finish the fight.  If that&#039;s the kind of shifting GC wants to see, that can be a lot of fun I think.  I think this is, or can be, one of the key strengths of playing a druid, or any hybrid class really.  However as they say, &quot;jack of all trades, master of none.&quot;

Of course, any druid interested in shifting roles constantly within a single battle can still spec hybrid and gear accordingly, but in the days of dual-spec does anyone actually do that?  I know I have a full-feral and a full-resto spec now, for example.  How often do you see &quot;LF utility druid&quot;?  Never, right?  It&#039;s always &quot;LF tank&quot;, &quot;LF heals&quot;, or &quot;LF dps&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How about they just stick an option where we can turn on or off our forms, similar to what we have with helmets and cloaks.&#8221;<br />
I like it.  It&#8217;d be cool to see us crawling around like cats or bears but in regular caster form  <img src='http://www.rollinghots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree that in pvp shifting is a necessary survival tactic.  You have to be able to go from tree to bear to cheetah, then when you&#8217;re safe prowl back quietly and be ready to pop that crucial heal at the right time.  </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right that in pve this is usually not necessary.  You pick a role in a group and you stick with it.  When I was leveling, though, I tried a 0/30/31 spec that I actually liked a lot.  I was usually grouping w/ a priest, pally, sham, and hunter from my guild.  Priest or sham took main heals, hunter&#8217;s pet and pally took main tanking duties, and so my role was shifty.  I would usually start in cat to take down the most important or the easiest mob, then shift to bear to off-tank adds heading for the healer and bring them back to the front of the fight.  If the priest died or ended up running around feared, sheeped, or silenced.  I could rebirth him or cover healing as long as needed, then back to cat to finish the fight.  If that&#8217;s the kind of shifting GC wants to see, that can be a lot of fun I think.  I think this is, or can be, one of the key strengths of playing a druid, or any hybrid class really.  However as they say, &#8220;jack of all trades, master of none.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, any druid interested in shifting roles constantly within a single battle can still spec hybrid and gear accordingly, but in the days of dual-spec does anyone actually do that?  I know I have a full-feral and a full-resto spec now, for example.  How often do you see &#8220;LF utility druid&#8221;?  Never, right?  It&#8217;s always &#8220;LF tank&#8221;, &#8220;LF heals&#8221;, or &#8220;LF dps&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/07/16/questioning-druid-q-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that seeing out armor is worth messing around with Tree of Life. They should just leave something that isn&#039;t broken alone. Go fix Frost mage raid viability or something.

Regarding the whole post about them wanting us to shift more, I already do a lot of that in PvP. Shifting is an important skill druids need to master if we want to excel in it. In PvE, it&#039;s a whole different story. Why would I need to shift in the first place? Maybe to cast a few spells in caster form and that&#039;s it. I&#039;m not going to shift into Dire Bear form to help tank if a tank dies.

How about they just stick an option where we can turn on or off our forms, similar to what we have with helmets and cloaks. That way both camps of the whole ToL change argument are happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that seeing out armor is worth messing around with Tree of Life. They should just leave something that isn&#8217;t broken alone. Go fix Frost mage raid viability or something.</p>
<p>Regarding the whole post about them wanting us to shift more, I already do a lot of that in PvP. Shifting is an important skill druids need to master if we want to excel in it. In PvE, it&#8217;s a whole different story. Why would I need to shift in the first place? Maybe to cast a few spells in caster form and that&#8217;s it. I&#8217;m not going to shift into Dire Bear form to help tank if a tank dies.</p>
<p>How about they just stick an option where we can turn on or off our forms, similar to what we have with helmets and cloaks. That way both camps of the whole ToL change argument are happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Oomer</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/07/16/questioning-druid-q-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1371</link>
		<dc:creator>Oomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of like the idea that treeform as an &quot;ohcrap&quot; ability.  Roots you in place for 15 seconds, doubles all healing, allows access to one or two other spells you can&#039;t usually cast.

Yes, balancing in PVP would be terrible.  As with most stuff, trying to balance PVP and PVE sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of like the idea that treeform as an &#8220;ohcrap&#8221; ability.  Roots you in place for 15 seconds, doubles all healing, allows access to one or two other spells you can&#8217;t usually cast.</p>
<p>Yes, balancing in PVP would be terrible.  As with most stuff, trying to balance PVP and PVE sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: yunk</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/07/16/questioning-druid-q-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1363</link>
		<dc:creator>yunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Perhaps the point is that we should be able to see some changes in our forms based upon our armor.&quot;

Not after seeing your posts on the t9 armor. We take any request for changes to our appearance back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps the point is that we should be able to see some changes in our forms based upon our armor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not after seeing your posts on the t9 armor. We take any request for changes to our appearance back.</p>
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		<title>By: Niadyth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niadyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be more interesting to PVP (ick) centric resto druids, I believe, though whether they&#039;ll want to be shifting all the time and sacrificing the tree form armor bonus is another thing entirely. 

Personally, I love the tree form, and I think it&#039;s very unlikely to go. 

It matches my Teldrassil Sproutling!

Apparently it does something nice to healing too, but meh, what would I know!?!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be more interesting to PVP (ick) centric resto druids, I believe, though whether they&#8217;ll want to be shifting all the time and sacrificing the tree form armor bonus is another thing entirely. </p>
<p>Personally, I love the tree form, and I think it&#8217;s very unlikely to go. </p>
<p>It matches my Teldrassil Sproutling!</p>
<p>Apparently it does something nice to healing too, but meh, what would I know!?!<br />
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		<title>By: Meugly</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/07/16/questioning-druid-q-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>Meugly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pretty unexcited when I first read about their ideas for possible changes to Tree form. After thinking about it for a bit though, an interesting concept arose from my oft-malfunctioning brain.
Tanks have their OHCRAP abilities; shield wall, last stand, etc. How about healers with ohcraps? Well, Pallies kind of have an ohcrap or two, and Priest get a couple sort of ohcraps also. We do have the venerable (and for me, often dusty keys associated with...) NS+HT.
Notice the lower case ohcrap. What if we had an OHCRAP ability?
What if Tree Form was our OHCRAP ability? When we shift in to Tree Form, our healing output could be increased by a pretty large amount for a set time. Just throwing out some numbers, but 10x for the next 3 hours sounds good to me. Seriously though, maybe double healing output for 15 seconds, on a fairly long cooldown, maybe 5 minutes or more.
In our regular caster form, we would heal for the exact amounts we currently do, assuming talents etc.


Tank: Shield Wall on cooldown!
Druid: Tree Form used. YOU LIVE!!!!


Could be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty unexcited when I first read about their ideas for possible changes to Tree form. After thinking about it for a bit though, an interesting concept arose from my oft-malfunctioning brain.<br />
Tanks have their OHCRAP abilities; shield wall, last stand, etc. How about healers with ohcraps? Well, Pallies kind of have an ohcrap or two, and Priest get a couple sort of ohcraps also. We do have the venerable (and for me, often dusty keys associated with&#8230;) NS+HT.<br />
Notice the lower case ohcrap. What if we had an OHCRAP ability?<br />
What if Tree Form was our OHCRAP ability? When we shift in to Tree Form, our healing output could be increased by a pretty large amount for a set time. Just throwing out some numbers, but 10x for the next 3 hours sounds good to me. Seriously though, maybe double healing output for 15 seconds, on a fairly long cooldown, maybe 5 minutes or more.<br />
In our regular caster form, we would heal for the exact amounts we currently do, assuming talents etc.</p>
<p>Tank: Shield Wall on cooldown!<br />
Druid: Tree Form used. YOU LIVE!!!!</p>
<p>Could be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See now I have the giggles at work.

&gt;:(
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See now I have the giggles at work.</p>
<p>&gt;:(<br />
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It implies stuff! With dogs! And what they do to trees! And we&#039;re the trees! Because we&#039;re trees!

I get jokes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It implies stuff! With dogs! And what they do to trees! And we&#8217;re the trees! Because we&#8217;re trees!</p>
<p>I get jokes.<br />
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.rollinghots.com/2009/07/16/questioning-druid-q-a/comment-page-1/#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol Keeva, I thought the dog&#039;s name went without saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Keeva, I thought the dog&#8217;s name went without saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The antagonist in me wants to Photoshop a tiny collar onto that dog, with a tag that says &quot;GC&quot;

But that would be naughty and childish.

:P
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The antagonist in me wants to Photoshop a tiny collar onto that dog, with a tag that says &#8220;GC&#8221;</p>
<p>But that would be naughty and childish.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.rollinghots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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